Wade Baker on the Watchtower Discussing Misused Metrics


Are we measuring the right things?
Or just the things easy to measure?
This one will sting…

Wade Baker, Ph.D., co-founder of Cyentia Institute and the architect of the Verizon DBIR, joined The Watchtower podcast to explore that question with Ash Hunt. The answers are uncomfortable. Three indictments from the conversation:

  • “Metrics are used as weapons more often than they’re used to manage a program.”
  • You can post a stellar MTTR by fixing 1% of your vulnerabilities.
  • Security teams think like snipers. CISOs should think like generals.

Don’t miss the full episode on:

🍎 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/are-we-measuring-the-right-things/id1893436936?i=1000769796312
🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3CNnlvmsTHmqsLzSWsBMON
📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKkTgyvXqbw